. >> which means more stuff leaking into the environment? right? >> right. they are not going to clean up this hazardous waste. >> that's a public problem and a personal problem for the people laid off furloughed. >> i was at the white house ray lahood came in. he hasn't been replaced yet. >> yeah. >> and a good man who announced one of them was going to be they were not going to eventually be delays and cancellations of flights but that they were going to shut down some towers. and i saw that over the weekend. right? >> it didn't happen immediately. now, apparently, it is actually going to happen. >> going to be cut? >> yeah. >> one tower and one runway at o'hare. you would think of all places, they would keep up to speed. right? it would be o'hare. >> and people have been -- the delays have happened to some people. there is a story about folks, international arrivals getting held up at customs a few hours. it's already as aggravating as it could possibly be. now it will be more aggravating. >> what will it take before people see that hey this is for real.